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Josep Borrell, High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy
Josep Borrell, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. Source: EU Council

Brussels, 22 July 2024

Russian war of aggression against Ukraine

The Foreign Affairs Council discussed the Russian aggression against Ukraine, after a VTC intervention by Ukraine’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba, who updated his EU counterparts on the latest developments on the ground, and the most pressing Ukrainian needs, especially in terms of air defence systems and energy infrastructure.

In the ensuing discussion, numerous ministers condemned Russia’s missile attacks against civilians, and the recent attack against the Children’s Hospital in Kyiv.

The Council then focused on EU military support to Ukraine, touching on the need to unblock EU support under the European Peace Facility. Concerning the use of windfall profits stemming from immobilised Russian assets, the High Representative updated EU Ministers on progress towards the first transfer of €1.4 billion expected at the beginning of August, that will be used to finance the acquisition of priority military equipment (air defence, artillery systems and ammunition), as well as procurement from the Ukrainian defence industry.

Then the Council discussed the next steps following the Summit on Peace that recently took place in Switzerland. In this context the High Representative stressed that the EU must do more to engage global partners all around the world, and that the Zelenskyy’s Peace Formula remains the only real peace plan supported by the EU.

The only one who is pro war is Putin, who is calling for Ukraine’s partition and rendition as preconditions for any talks and any ceasefire. And he sends reminders every day in the form of thousands of missiles, drones, glide bombs, and more military offensive. So, if you want to talk about the war party, talk about Putin, not about the European Union.

Josep Borrell, High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy

Lastly, the High Representative announced that the informal meetings of the Defence and Foreign Affairs Ministers scheduled for the end of August would take place in Brussels.

European Investment Bank

Over lunch EU Ministers of Foreign Affairs had an informal exchange of views with the President of the European Investment Bank, Nadia Calviño.

Ministers welcomed the EIB’s expanding role in the area of security and defence industry, expressed interest on going even further, and called for delivery of short term support to Ukraine. They also welcomed the stepped up EIB Group support for Ukrainian energy system and business.

The EIB President also confirmed the EIB’s commitment to contribute to financial stability in the West Bank and support the Palestinian Authority reform agenda, in line with the Commission support.

Situation in the Middle East

The Foreign Affairs Council discussed the situation in the Middle East, focusing on the situation on the ground, including the humanitarian situation in Gaza and the situation of hostages.

The Council was briefed by the EU Special Representatives for Human Rights, Olof Skoog, and for the Middle East Peace Process, Sven Koopmans.

After nearly ten months -290 days- the war in Gaza continues raging, and we witness new forced evacuations of exhausted civilians. There are more than 17 000 orphans in Gaza. And humanitarian access, which was always difficult, has now imploded.

Virtually everyone in Gaza is dependent on aid to survive. 96% of Gaza population is acutely food insecure. You can say whatever you want, but this is a horror, unbearable, and we must do everything we can to stop it. For the sake of our own humanity.

Josep Borrell, High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy

The High Representative noted that, unfortunately, negotiations for a ceasefire and the release of hostages had no positive outcome in sight.

During the debate, ministers discussed risks of regional escalation, and the latest advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice. They also discussed how to build on cooperation with the Arab partners and other partners towards a meaningful process toward the two-state solution.

The Council also exchanged on how best to step up the EU support for the Palestinian Authority, to prevent its collapse to the benefit of both Palestinians, and Israelis. In this context, EU Ministers were updated by the Commission on EU political and financial assistance to the Palestinian Authority, in the form of a substantive multiannual support package which will support the Palestinian Authority reform agenda.

Lastly, the Council took stock of the ongoing preparations for the EU-Israel Association Council.

Current affairs

Under Current Affairs, the Council exchanged views about digital diplomacy, on the basis of a recent progress report by the EEAS and the Commission.

Council conclusions and other decisions

The Council approved conclusions on opening up of a visa liberalisation dialogue with Armenia.

The Council also adopted assistance measures under the European Peace Facility in support of the Armed Forces of Armenia and of the Islamic Republic of Mauritania.

Lastly, the Council prolonged the EU restrictive measures in view of the Russian Federation’s continuing actions destabilising the situation in Ukraine until 31 January 2025, and listed four individuals and two entities over serious human rights violations, including torture and systematic and widespread sexual and gender-based violence.

The Council also adopted without discussion the items on the lists of legislative and non-legislative ‘A’ items.

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Press releases on 22 July 2024

Source – EU Council

 


Foreign Affairs Council: press remarks by High Representative Josep Borrell upon arrival

Brussels, 22 July 2024

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Good morning.

This is the last Foreign Affairs Council before the summer break.

As always, Ukraine, Gaza [and the] West Bank will be on the agenda. Also, we will receive the new President of the European Investment Bank (EIB) [Nadia Calviño], in order to see how we can align better the resources that the European Investment Bank is managing with our foreign policy. In particular, our cooperation with third countries, and also how to fund our defence efforts.

The EIB is a very important player, [it has] a portfolio bigger than the World Bank and it is good that the new President comes here to discuss with us about how we can use better their support. In particular, I think it has to be invested on supporting the Palestinian Authority with more loans, as it was already discussed at the European Parliament the past days.

On Ukraine, there are two main issues today; to try to avoid the complete destruction of the electricity system. 70% of the power generation capacity in Ukraine has been destroyed. We are in the summer, but in the winter this will be much more difficult to bear.

So, I will call the Member States to provide more support to rebuild and substitute the electricity grid [to ensure] more power generation.

And the second one is air defence. Just immediately after the visit of Prime Minister [of Hungary, Viktor] Orbán to Kyiv, and to Putin in Moscow, a children’s hospital was destroyed, hit by Russian rockets creating a lot of casualties among children in this hospital.

So, more air defence and more electricity generation capacity. These are the two calls the Member States will have to look at.

Certainly, we will discuss about other issues of the war in Ukraine. We will listen to Minister [for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro] Kuleba. Then, I will call for a restricted session – Ministers only – in order to discuss what has happened during the last weeks from the visits to Moscow, to Kyiv and to Beijing , from Prime Minister [of Hungary, Viktor] Orbán, [to] the speeches at the United Nations Security Council [by] his Foreign Minister [Péter Szijjártó], accusing the European Union to be the Union that pushes for war.

This is completely unacceptable. The European Union is supporting Ukraine and willing to finish this war on the basis of the United Nations Charter. We will discuss about how Member States evaluate this position by a country which is, at the same time, at the rotating presidency of the [Council of] the European Union.

The European Union is not pushing for war; it is not in the war side; it is in the war defending Ukraine in front of an aggression.

Secondly, we will discuss about the situation in the Middle East.

The big news is the Advisory opinion issued by the International Court of Justice (ICJ), on Friday. They are stating clearly the position that the European Union has always supported; that the occupation of the West Bank – the Palestinian territories in the West Bank – is fully illegal, and it has to stop.

Yes, it is an Advisory opinion, but it is the International Court of Justice, the highest legal body of the United Nations, with a very clear message. They stated: “This is illegal, it has to stop. Israel has to withdraw its settlements”.

The answer from the Israeli – Netanyahu government – came immediately saying: “No, this is our land; historical reasons”.

Well, you can interpret history [however] you want, but we are talking about international law. And you will respect international law. We will claim, every day, that we are abiding by international law.

We have to discuss what we do now. Which are the consequences of this opinion of the Court, how the European Union is going to take this Opinion inside our policy with respect to the Middle East.

It is not [a matter of putting] in one side history, and on the other side international law.

Unhappily, [there] has never been such a big discrepancy between international law, and reality in the ground.

What do we see in Gaza is a humanitarian catastrophe, man-made, of unbearable dimensions; 17.000 orphans; almost 40.000 people being killed.

In order to rebuild Gaza [they] will need 10 years of taking rubble out.

Unhappily, the ceasefire that President [of the United States, Joe] Biden has been proposing, [has] not come. Humanitarian support is still stalled.

The difference between what the law says, according [to] the ICJ, and what is happening in the ground, has never been as big as today.

The Courts are coming to [fill] the vacuum of politics. Politics has been unable to look for a solution. But the Court is not there to implement the Opinion. The Opinion has to be implemented by the political powers.

The European Union has a special responsibility in this issue. So, I will put on the table again whatever we can do, apart from saying that we support the International Court of Justice, and we ask the Israelis not to continue settlements. Apart from saying what we can do.

I distributed a report done by our EU Special Representative for Human Rights [Olof Skoog] which is a compilation of everything [that] has been said by the United Nations international [agencies] about how this war has been happening and which are their consequences – the humanitarian consequences.

It is a compilation of all the assessments explaining all the circumstances, that we can regret a lot, but we have to know, and take a stock of it.

This will be a good basis to prepare the Association Council with Israel. I distributed a tentative agenda to the Member States. This cannot be an Association Council business as usual.

Because business is not as usual. As [long] as the war continues, it is risking to spill over in the region. We are facing a catastrophic situation.

Yes, we have to talk about bilateral relations, but we have to talk about what is going on Gaza and in the West Bank. We have to talk about the economic restrictions of the Palestinian Authority, by cutting the tax revenues that Israel is doing. We have to talk about the extension of the settlements. We have to talk about how humanitarian support is not entering into Gaza.

But, for that, I need a unanimous agreement of Member States about our common position to go to this Association Council. It is not for tomorrow.

Anyway, this Association Council will be chaired on the European Union side by the High Representative – not by the rotating presidency [of the Council of the European Union]. It is important that Israel’s government and in particular the Minister for Foreign Affairs know how it works.

This is, today, an important meeting. I hope that Member States will be ready to take their responsibilities, in both sides.

Q&A

Q: Do you want to chair the Gymnich meeting at the end of August in Budapest?

Well, as I said, we will discuss about what has happened, the position taken by the Hungarian government – trying to make the difference between the Hungarian government and the country that holds the rotating presidency. And depending how Member States evaluate this, we also have to discuss how we will continue doing what is expected to be done. I do not know what Member States will say, and that is why I want them to express their point of view. This is my decision; the one who calls for the [Foreign Affairs] Council meeting is the High Representative. So, after listening to all of them, after discussing among us, I will have to take a decision.

Q: What is your view on President Biden stepping down from running?

I know that President Biden has decided to step down. I wish the best for the Democratic appointee, the one who will take his place.

Q: [How will this] shape transatlantic relationships?

Well, the Americans have to decide who they want to have in the White House. Certainly, I am sure it will be quite an important difference for the transatlantic relations, depending on who is there. But it is for the United States’ citizens to decide. I do not want to interfere. I do not think it is our role to go and tell the Americans what they have to do, or to express preferences for one or the other. In any case, it is not my role.

Q: Mr. Borrell, why do you think it is a good idea to call in Ministers at the time of the Summit in Budapest in August? Is it democratic?

I already said it. We will discuss about it and I will take a decision.

Q: ¿ Qué tiene que hacer Europa sobre la situación de incertidumbre en Estados Unidos, sobre todo respecto a Ucrania? ¿Tiene que ser ahora más fuerte que nunca?

Nosotros tenemos que seguir ayudando a Ucrania. Los ciudadanos americanos están llamados a votar, pero tenemos que asumir nuestra responsabilidades – aquí y ahora. No podemos esperar a ver qué pasa en noviembre. De aquí a noviembre, el sistema eléctrico ucraniano estará completamente destruido si no se suministra una mayor capacidad de defensa aérea.

Q: Si può aver un commento, una reazione sul ritiro di Joe Biden? Sara l’argomento del giorno?

Si, ma su questo non ho un’opinione in particolare. Gli americani devono fare le loro elezioni. Cos’altro posso aggiungere?

Q: Dalla parte dell’Unione Europea, un sentimento di gratitudine?

Abbiamo lavorato molto bene con il Presidente Biden, abbiamo avuto una relazione molto positiva. Ma se il Presidente Biden decide di ritirarsi perché pensa che un altro candidato possa avere più forza per vincere le elezioni per il Partito Democratico, noi rispettiamo la sua decisione.

Link to video: https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/video/I-259733

Source – EEAS

 


Foreign Affairs Council: Press remarks by High Representative Josep Borrell at the press conference

Brussels, 22 July 2024

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Thank you and sorry for being so late.

Since it was the last one [Foreign Affairs Council] before the summer break, everybody wanted to talk about a whole range of things. But mainly, the two most important, as always, have been the situation in the Gaza war and the war against Ukraine.

As always, we started the day by discussing Ukraine with Foreign Minister [of Ukraine, Dmytro] Kuleba connected online. Then, we went to the situation in the Middle East. And we had an important exchange with the President of the European Investment Bank (EIB), Nadia Calviño. This lasted more than expected because Member States were very much interested in knowing more from the new President of the EIB.

But let me first start with two important decisions which will strengthen our partnership with Armenia.

First, we adopted the first-ever Assistance Measure under the European Peace Facility for Armenia, for around €10 million.

Second, we gave green light to launch a visa liberalisation dialogue with Armenia.

These two decisions were long awaited by Armenia. I am very happy that this could be finally agreed before the summer break – because you know how the situation is tense in the Caucasus,  and this will strengthen our partnership with Armenia.

On Ukraine, nearly all Ministers condemned Russia’s missile attack against civilians, and the recent attack against the Children’s Hospital in Kyiv. Which shows that Ukraine needs more air defence. And air defence is required now.

So, we discussed and we reviewed what we had been able to supply since the last month at the [NATO] Washington summit. Member States considered the possibility of increasing their support to Ukraine, in order to deflect these criminal air attacks.

The other problem was the energy infrastructure. This is an important point of the capacity of Ukraine to resist. There is a high percentage of Ukraine’s electricity generation capacity that has been damaged or destroyed – or it is out of the territorial control by the Ukrainian government.

This is happening in summer. You can imagine in winter. Putin wants to put Ukraine into the darkness and cold. That is why the coming 2 or 3 months will be crucial.

We have no time to waste before the winter arrives.

I asked Ministers start mobilising now to provide more power generation capacity to Ukraine. Contributing to the Ukraine Energy Support Fund is also needed.

Then, we went to our military support for Ukraine, through the European Peace Facility. Most Member States insisted on the need to lift the blockage for this payment, pending for months more than a year.

At the same time, they stressed the importance to move on regarding the decision to implement the new Ukraine Assistance Fund, which has been blocked by one member state, for more than one year.

Member States insisted that this was something unacceptable, unbearable – but unhappily the situation of blockage remains.

On the windfall profits, I updated Ministers on progress towards the first transfer of €1.4 billion expected to happen at the beginning of August – next week. We are set to finance the acquisition of priority military equipment – once again, air defence, ammunition for artillery – and also, and this is new, procurement for the Ukrainian defence industry. So, we are not going only to provide military support to Ukraine but from Ukraine itself. Which is certainly the most logical and efficient thing we can do.

Then we discussed, with [Foreign Minister] Kuleba, the next steps following the Summit on Peace in Switzerland, and agreed that we have to do more to engage with global partners from across the world.

This summit in Switzerland got good results but this has to be improved. About 90 states who have agreed about the final statement of this meeting, but we have to continue reaching out to them, in order to counter the Russian propaganda and to clarify and to explain everybody around the world what is going on in Russia – attacks against Ukraine. To remind [that] there is an aggressor and an aggressed, that Ukraine is defending and we are supporting Ukraine on defending itself.

Sometimes this is not being explained. Sometimes, it is even hidden. No, let’s tell the truth.

Let’s stress the position of the European Union, which is and remains – and has been for quite a long [time] – to support Zelenskyy’s Peace Formula, which is the only peace plan in town. Here, in Brussels. The only peace plan that the European Union supports.

Let me say it again: Russia is the aggressor in violation of the United Nations Charter, and Ukraine the victim exercising its fundamental right to self defence.

It is nothing hysterical about that. It is just telling the truth. The European Union policy is not a “pro-war” policy. We strongly rejected that.

We analysed the statements and actions implemented by the Hungarian Prime Minister and the Foreign Affairs Minister of Hungary, and with only a single exception, I can say that all Member States, were very much critical about this behaviour.

It is Putin who is the war party. The only one who is “pro-war” is Putin, who is calling for Ukraine’s partition and rendition as his “pre-conditions” for any talks and ceasefire. He sends reminders every day, in the form of thousands of missiles, drones and glide bombs, and more military offensives.

If you want to talk about the “war” party, talk about Putin. Not about the European Union. Putin is the “pro war” party here.

We want peace. No one more wants peace more than the Ukrainians themselves. But for a fair, lasting peace, it needs to preserve Ukraine’s freedom and independence, and ensure accountability for the many war crimes that have been happening since the war started.

Any so-called “peace mission”, that ignores these basic fundamentals, is, at the end of the day, only benefiting Putin and will not bring peace.

With a single exception, I think that all Member States, agreed on the need to work for peace but on this basis.

25 Member states criticised Hungary’s actions, also in light of its responsibilities as rotating Presidency. Nearly all Member States insisted on the need to keep unity.

I reminded of the duty of loyalty under article 24.3 of the Treaty on European Union which is there not for decoration, it is not there as empty words. Each Member States is sovereign on its foreign policy, [it is] true. But as far as they are members of this club [European Union] they have to obey to the treaties and, in particular, to this article which is asking for loyal cooperation  and implementation of the common positions on foreign policy.

It is not something that you can do or not; you have to [do it].

Member [States] discussed about another issue, which is where to hold the informal Foreign Affairs Council and the Defence Informal. There were quite strong divisions. I tried to do my best in order to get unity, I was listening to everybody, listening to all arguments, trying to make them converge – maybe in the middle of the way position. It has not been possible.

Some were willing to go to Budapest – business as usual -, others clearly did not want to go, and others said “ok, it is up to the High Representative to decide”. And certainly it is up to me. It is according to my capacities to decide when and where the [Foreign Affairs] Councils are meeting, either formal or informal setting.

After listening to everyone, and spending hours discussing and trying to understand the reasons  of ones and others, I had to take a decision.

And I considered that, if the 25 Member States were strongly against this position, this statement, this prise de position, done by messages or even at the United Nations Security Council itself, under the invitation of Minister Lavrov telling: “The EU policy is the policy of war”, I understood that we have to send a signal, even if it is a symbolic signal that has been against the foreign policy of the European Union. And disqualifying the policy [communicated by a Member State that] of the European Union as the party at war has to have some consequences.

Well, formal consequences. Symbolic consequences, nothing really happens. I think it was much more appropriate to show this feeling and to call for the next [informal] Foreign and Defence Council meeting informal in Brussels, when we come back from holidays.

Now the Middle East.

I invited the EU Special Representative for Human Rights [Olof Skoog] to present his report made on the basis assessments by relevant United Nations institutions regarding respect for International Human Rights Law and International Humanitarian Law. Ministers also were briefed by EU Special Representative for the Middle East Peace Process Sven Koopmans on the efforts to revive the process in cooperation with our Arab partners and others.

After nearly 10 months, 290 days, the war in Gaza continues raging, and we witness new forced evacuation of exhausted civilians. There are more than 17.000 orphans in Gaza. Let me give some facts: humanitarian access – which was always difficult – now, it has imploded.

Daily trucks crossing into Gaza dropped from 193 on average in April to less than 76 in June – less than half – and 84 during the first two weeks of July. There is no way of giving the support that the human beings in Gaza require with this drop on humanitarian support.

And this does not happen by accident.

The limited aid getting into the North cannot reach the South. The average of trucks entering via Kerem Shalom is 14 trucks a day.

Before the war, there were hundreds per day. Now, 14.

Virtually everyone in Gaza is dependent on aid to survive. 96% of Gaza’s population are acutely food insecure.

You can say whatever you want, but this is a horror, unbearable. We must do everything we can to stop it – for the sake of our own humanity.

Unfortunately, negotiations for a ceasefire and release of hostages are dragging, with no positive outcome in sight.

There has been this statement, this [Advisory Opinion] of the International Court of Justice. Allow me to say, in the light of this [Opinion] that today we find ourselves in a situation where International Law has never been as far to the situation on the ground.

International law has come to replace the failings of politics. However legitimate, however strong, international legal institutions are not there to implement the law. They are there to state the law. To implement the law, it has to be done by political actors. Not by the Courts.

The Courts issuing rulings, or [Advisory Opinions] provide a valuable guide for the players in the international community, who are at the end responsible and guarantors of international security.

Never before the gap between the law and the reality has been so wide. Never before [has the gap between] what the law says, and what happens in the ground, been so unsurmountable.

And all this under the watchful eye of a powerless international community.

Today, there is no ceasefire. There is no plan for Gaza. There is no revival of the global settlement. On the contrary, there is a continuation of military operations in Gaza. It is becoming banal, to say today, tomorrow and yesterday, and the day [after] tomorrow that some tens or some hundreds of people are being killed under bombs. And the hostages have still not been released.

This territory has been transformed into a stateless home. This is Mogadishu in the Mediterranean, where war will reign for all against all, and where violence will be a substitute for politics.

We are happy to see that our European Investment Bank will support the Palestinian Authority. We are happy to know that the President of the Commission presented on her speech to the [European] Parliament a plan to support the Palestinian Authority, in order to boost also their reforms.

But we need to act quickly, if we want to avoid a whole catastrophe this summer.

Members support our work and our efforts in order to organise in the United Nations General Assembly week another meeting, as the one that we held last year.

I remember last September, some weeks before the terrorist attack by Hamas, we were talking about the two-state solution, and the day after. What an irony. One year later, we will again be in New York, meeting, and we will have to have another meeting to talk about the day after.

But “after” what? After this terrorist attack and about 40,000 people being killed in Gaza?

Yes, the international community has to wake up. The European Union has to do more efforts in order to support a peace process. Starting with a ceasefire, humanitarian support, release of hostages, and a political prospect for the two-state solution.

But, it is clear that the Advisory Opinion of the International Court of Justice – saying that the occupation of the West Bank is illegal and it has to end, and Israel has to withdraw from these territories – has gotten an immediate answer from Netanyahu’s government saying “No, this is our land. It belongs to us.”

Now there is a fight between history, or interpretation of history, and international law. This is a very critical moment for all of us, because maybe the war will rage in Lebanon, in Yemen, maybe it will be worse in Gaza. So, let’s keep [ourselves] very much busy during the summer break to try to do as much as we can in order to prevent a great catastrophe.

Thank you.

Q&A

Q. You mentioned that EU countries supporting the Zelenskyy Peace Plan. How real do you think is Zelenskyy’s intention to hold the second peace summit in the autumn of this year? What kind of conditions should be kept to invite Russia to take part? So far, as I understand, the situation of this European Peace Facility is lasting already more than a year. But it is not only Ukraine suffering, because some EU member states also cannot get some kind of payback for assistance already delivered to Ukraine. Do you see there some kind of solution, alternative solution, [that] could be reached by negotiations or in some other formats to let that expenditure, be alive?

I am sure that President [of Ukraine, Volodymyr] Zelenskyy’s will to continue advancing on peace talks and to have another conference with Russia’s attendance is real, certainly. We already said what we have said in Switzerland: the next steps require the involvement of Russia. But have a look at what Putin said during the visit of Prime Minister [of Hungary, Viktor] Orbán to Moscow. Have a look. These are the preconditions of Putin. But certainly, we have to engage in any hope for peace through diplomatic talks but on some basis –  not on Putin’s basis.

About the European Peace Facility, I lost the hope that they could [unblock] it. For more than one year, we have been asking, putting pressure, looking for a solution -“now this, after another thing.” Today I said, this is shameful. Purely shameful. Not because we are not able to provide the military support to Ukraine, because this money has to be paid to the Member States – because Member States already provided this military support, and Ukraine has received it. But Member States have not been reimbursed and if they are not being reimbursed for what they did in the past, they have little incentive to continue in the future. So, I do not know. I do not know how I can solve it, but I today I qualify it as a shameful situation.

Q. Two questions for you, High Representative. The first one is: you invoked this article on loyal cooperation between Member States. Do you think Hungary has already breached this article, that there is a legal breach in its activities? And second, besides this boycott of the Gymnich meeting that you just explained, do you envision any other measures to ensure the Hungarian presidency does not continue disrupting EU unity with their self-proclaimed peace mission?

First, I refuse the word boycotting. The informal meeting will take place and Hungary will be sitting there, be it in Budapest, be it in Brussels or be it somewhere else. By the way, there have been some proposals to hold the meeting somewhere else, that were rejected. So, no boycott at all. Simply one meeting instead of taking place here will take place there. But the meeting will work, as always, with the full participation of all Member States, including the one who holds the rotating presidency. So, this is a symbolic measure, this is not a court decision. By the way, it is difficult, a court decision, because you know that the Court of Justice of the European Union has no competence on foreign policy. So this is an article that has more of a political reading. And for me, it is clear that what has happened belongs to the realm of a lack of loyal cooperation.

Q. Regarding the EUBAM Rafah mission, did you get today the political green light from the Council? And I have a second [question], more clarification about the discussion with the president of the European Investment Bank and the possible support to the Palestinian Authority. Could you be a little bit precise? How much the European Investment Bank is going to provide as a credit?

Yes, the European Investment Bank has signed a loan, an important loan, to the Palestinian Authority that it will start disbursing right now. In several tranches, which is about, a little less than €200 million. Quite an important amount of money, [it] is a loan which has to be repaid, but in very benefic conditions. This will start being disbursed from now [on]. Then, it will follow the plan announced by President von der Leyen. Also, Member States requested more information about the pending amount coming from 2022 and 2023 budget.

About our mission in the in the border, [EUBAM Rafah]. We are ready to go. We have the human capital. We have the people, waiting to go. Tenemos la capacidad de situar nuestra gente en la frontera, y controlar el paso de personas. Porque se trata de controlar el paso de personas, entre ellos muchos heridos que esperan ser evacuados hacia Egipto. Pero yo no puedo mandar a los funcionarios de la Unión Europea sin saber qué van a hacer y con quién. Y quién garantiza su seguridad.

For this I need an agreement between the Egyptians, the Palestinians, and the Israelis. Without it, I cannot go. Certainly, we need to be part of the deal, [with] the Palestinian Authority.

Q. One short clarification, if you don’t mind. Eight European countries sent you a letter, Mr. Borrell, asking the European Union to reconsider its approach towards Syria. Did you discuss this issue? What was the reaction of the Member States? 

I have to say that it was very late in the afternoon. Yes, we listened to these Member States represented by Italy and Austria and work will continue. Being pragmatical, but not naive. We know where the Syrian regime is, very close to Russia and Iran. But we will work. We are always ready to work, to try to look for an arrangement that could benefit the Syrian people.

Q. I have a question on the meeting with Nadia Calviño. If you can tell us a bit more, and if you can tell us if the issue of the new Eurobonds for the defence was raised.

It is not the role of the President of the European Investment Bank to take the decision of issuing Eurobonds. No, this was not discussed because it was neither the moment, nor the actor. The issuing of debt to finance the defence effort is something that belongs to the Member States, not to the European Investment Bank.

Q. Vous dites que le droit international et la réalité n’ont jamais été aussi éloignées l’une de l’autre. Que peut faire l’Union européenne pour diminuer cet écart entre la réalité et le droit international?

Malheureusement, comme vous le savez, on a un certain nombre de divisions, des points de vue différents parmi les États membres. Évidemment, ça cela ne nous aide pas à être un acteur fondamental, mais [nous] allons continuer à faire ce que l’on est en train de faire. Et ce n’est pas peu: continuer à donner de l’aide humanitaire, continuer à mettre de la pression politique sur tout le monde, sur le gouvernement israélien aussi. Et regarder de près quelles sont les sanctions qu’on peut prendre. On en a déjà adopté la semaine dernière, contre un certain nombre des violent settlers. Rien n’est exclu, qu’on ne puisse pas adopter d’autres, sanctions, si ça continue comme ça. La situation à West Bank [ en Cisjordanie] est explosive et là, il y a quand même des gens qui agissent et des gens qui les poussent à agir. Il faut écouter ce que certains ministres du gouvernement de Netanyahu disent à propos de ce qu’il faut faire dans le West Bank [en Cisjordanie]. Donc, il faut rester vigilant. Il faut, à nouveau, adopter des sanctions. Oui, s’il le faut, on le fera. En même temps, sans doute, demander sans cesse la libération des otages et voir si durant la semaine de UNGA [Assemblée générale des Nations unies] à New York, on peut faire à nouveau ce qu’on a fait l’année dernière. Au moins, une grande rencontre de tous les acteurs internationaux,  dans un contexte radicalement différent d’il y a un an. Mais il faut y faire face. Et nous initier cette réunion. Je sais que certains États membres essayent de faire ça – la France aurait bien aimé, l’Espagne voudrait bien le faire au mois de septembre. La semaine de UNGA à New York sera un moment où l’Union européenne et nos partenaires arabes et américains doivent trouver l’occasion de travailler ensemble, et inviter sans doute le gouvernement israélien et les Palestiniens. On a une initiative norvégienne, le Ad-Hoc Liaison Committee. Nous, vous savez, on est des diplomates en Europe. On n’a pas d’autre moyen que l’art de la parole, de la réunion et de l’action, qui est plus ou moins contraignante, mais qui se base évidemment sur des principes. Je le dis: jamais le droit international, la loi, a été aussi éloignée de la réalité, malheureusement.

Link to video: https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/video/I-259787

Source – EEAS

 

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